Simple PanCake Tek.

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  1. Budkatz

    Budkatz New Member

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    Thanks for the replies. I too have found verm to be basically clean, but I wasn't sure if the pans would require a "casing" rich in beneficial micros such as pasteurized 50/50+.
     
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  2. treewood

    treewood mediocre mycologist Moderator Mushroom Doctor Supporter

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    Why does pan pf cakes work good goin straight to hpoo but we dont do it like that with cubes
     
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    I had this idea awhile back about this concept.

    I was wondering if maybe we don't know as much about cubes as we think we do. Pans will grow and produce on straight manure, but cubes won't. Maybe cubes are not manure lovers at all...

    Maybe they grow and consume something else that we still have yet to narrow down. But at the same time have a preference to manure rather than necessity. Pans don't seem to grow without it, but cubes do just fine without. I suspect we are missing something.
     
  4. nomendubium

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    This is just a theory, I haven't researched it. Pans are coprophiliacs, they eat shit. Cubes are secondary sapophites, they eat partially decomposed plant matter (like hay that has been digested ) they will eat anything they can metabolize. Pans are like pandas, they only like o one thing, shit(and pandas like eucalyptus)
     
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    So this is why pans do okay with manure compost and cubes too? It has something for both of them then yes?
     
  6. Budkatz

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    Someone posted a reply in response to a question i asked (at another site) indicating pans can be fruited on grain or straw. Links are posted showing those threads if you are interested to research it. I had not seen pans fruiting on anything other than horse or cow poo based substates. I still think poo is easier and probably more productive.
     
  7. treewood

    treewood mediocre mycologist Moderator Mushroom Doctor Supporter

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    RR says cubes are a PRIMARY decomposer.
     
  8. ManicMongrel

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    If you pick them (pans) in the wild you will find them fruiting at grass fields, forest floor at the edge grass field/treeline, rice fields or other farmland. Yes they fruit on manure and use cattle as a major distribution system, however they simple like old ligno-cellulostic debris. They are somewhere between secondary and tertiary decomposers if you prefer that term. You dont need manure to fruit them, it simply makes them fruit very fast. Straw works phenomenal if you prep it thoroughly. https://mycotek.org/data/photos/l/9/9085-1374126330-0ba2ea63fdb2a8e556e4978496097a37.jpg

    Edit: wops, I ment pans not cubes.
     
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  9. Professor PinHead

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    Psilocybe cubensis is a dung loving species in case anyone is getting confused here, lol. :)

    This is why in general if you are interested in finding specimens and live in their naturally distributed area you go to a cow field.

    If you give cubes a choice between shit or coir they would without a doubt crawl toward the shit every time.

    If you gave it them chance after crawling to the shit they would then continue on and crawl to the coir and eat that too.
     
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    elfstone Initiate Mushroom Doctor Supporter

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    The links provided still take you back to the old site, which is now empty of content.
     
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    I said, "Pandas love eucalyptus" :lol: my gf informed me pandas love bamboo and koalas love eucalyptus. You really Gotta watch me! As far as the decomposition I was working backwards from an observation to a hypothesis....good way to make a bad hypothesis!
     
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    oops :laugh1:
     
  13. ManicMongrel

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    And hypothesis' in ecology change all the time and every hypothesis is in conflict with a numer of others, so yours probably has loads of data supporting it and to some extend other data questioning the accuracy.

    I got that picture of a really old patty with pans all over, but I'm not allowed to upload for some reason. Otto on shroomery got pics of fields, gardens all sorts of areas peppered with pans from 2010/2011 I think.
     
  14. Professor PinHead

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    Pretty observant girl ya got there, :)
     
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    nomendubium scraping by, since '97 Expert Identifier

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    She's a pretty good identifier too. If I sent her out in the woods i'm sure she would bring me back some food :) I bet she recognizes over 100 species
     
  16. Professor PinHead

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    Sounds like a keeper! :wink:
     
  17. Professor PinHead

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    Not anymore they don't Mr. Stone, :baby1:

    I have taken care of our broken link issue finally. What a pain in the ass, lol.

    Here is an example thread with those dead links you were referring to that are no longer dead....

    This thread was started before the move and if you click this link you'll notice two other links in the op. They lead to even older links one going way back to when the site was 6 months old. They are now being redirected to the appropriate place, :)

    https://mycotek.org/index.php?threads/3rd-annual-myco-tek-pumpkin-carving-contest.5891/
     
  18. boomer513

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    Can I make a pan cyan (jam) Lc ? Will a light corn syrup work?