The definative psilocybe ovoideocystidiata guide *migrated!*

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  1. nomendubium

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    Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata is a psilocybin mushroom in the section Stuntzae, having psilocybin and/or psilocin as main active compounds. It is closely related to P. subaeruginascens from Java, P. septentrionalis from Japan, and P. wayanadensis from India. This mushroom was first documented by Richard V. Gaines in Montgomery County, Pennsylvania in June 2003. Although it is sometimes confused with Psilocybe caerulipes, it can be distinguished by its rhomboid spores, larger stature, earlier fruiting season and membranous annulus.

    Description
    Cap: 1 — 4.5 cm across, convex to subumbonate, chestnut or orangish brown to yellowish brown to pearly cream color, hygrophanous, glabrous, sub-viscid, translucent-striate near the margin, from slightly to highly undulated in maturity, with irregular yellowish, brownish, or bluish tones, sometimes white when dry. Flesh thick, pliant. Bruises blue and more notably, green, where injured.
    Gills: adnate attachment and range from whitish to rusty brown, lavender, or dark purple brown.
    Spores: Dark purple brown, rhomboid to subrhomboid in face view, subellipsoid in side view, thick-walled, 8 x 6 µm .
    Stipe: 1.5 – 9 cm by 1 – 7 mm, equal, somewhat subbulbous, hollow, base sometimes hypogeous, smooth at the top and often having small scales near the bottom, colored whitish with irregular yellowish, brownish, or bluish tones. The partial veil is variable, ranging from a thin cortina that leaves a barely perceptible annular zone, to a substantial membrane that leaves a fairly persistent annulus.
    Taste: farinaceous
    Odor: farinaceous
    Microscopic features: Two types of cheilocystidia and pleurocystidia are present.

    habitat and distribution
    Wild Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata
    Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata is common in the Ohio river valley. Often found in the woody debris of overflow areas, along rivers and streams, rarely in man-made mulch. They are most common from April to mid June but they occasionally fruit as late as November. It was first documented in Pennsylvania, its been found from Kentucky east to Ohio, West Virginia, Virginia New Jersey and most recently from Rhode Island, New York and Southern California.
    distribution map
    taken from Wikipedia

    To many of us in North America, from the Mississippi river East along the Ohio river And extending nearly to the Atlantic ocean, this species is the holy-grail of hallucinogenic mushrooms.
    My personal notes on the appearance and occurance

    1) though it is true they are most common From April to june, I have found them in March, one year when we had a mild winter. A great indicator is morel mushrooms. If you find a morchella species mushroom, then you know that the ovoids are out. Occasionally one may find a fall fruiter, these will be in the late fall season, I've personally never found one in the fall.
    The physical appearance of the carpophore is extremely variable. Young specimens often have a conical cap, and dark color;
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    as they mature, they become convex, but depending on the weather they may retain the dark coloration
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    or they may become much lighter(hygrophanus)
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    The gills(lamallae)
    are pale on young specimens, darkening as they prepare to drop spores, but should have white edges, like this

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    here are some ovoids being printed. You can see the color of the spores under the edge of the cap
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    Here is a comparison of an ovoid(left) to another mushroom that fruits at the same time, in the same habitat(right, agrocybe sp.) note the ovoid has a white stem and abundant rhizomorphs at the base;
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    they often grow from buried wood, but can fruit from sticks and logs occasionally. Note the abundant rhizos;
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    this is a typical fruiting, that I find;
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    this pic shows the hygrophanus habit, and also a nice shot of the color of the gills;
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    here's some good bruising;
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    here's a nice pic of the natural bruising and a tyically umbonate cap;
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    here is a pic of the largest ones I ever found. Again, note the rhizomorphs at the base, you need to see those, if you hope to be looking at an ovoid;
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    I gave this one a pinch, and in less than 30 seconds, it looked like this. If in doubt, the pinch test is highly recommended. Also here is a top veiw of the agrocybe sp. I find with them; [​IMG]

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    My Album
    the scent/ taste
    In my personal opinion, the scent/taste of psilocybe ovoideocystidiata is reminiscent of a cortinarius, particularly, "sweet and sickly" I find it to be similar to cortinarius alboviolaceus



    DANGER!!!DANGER!!!DANGER!!!
    before you head out to hunt those ovoids, you need to know about this;
    Galerina Autumnalis/marginata is a deadly poisonous species of mushroom that shares the habitat of psilocybe ovoideocystidiata. It can also mimic the physical appearance. They have an orange sporeprint, and orangish gills in age. They will not bruise blue when injured. When one finds some ovoids, it is not unlikely he/she will go into "a picking frenzy" Try to restrain yourself. Inspect every specimen closely. Learn them. Love them. Hate them.
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    please note, this is a work in progress. Feel free to offer help, as far as the lay-out, pics, or anything else you have an opinion on:hamsterdance:
     
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    this thread really REALLY makes me wanna munch on some ovoids... its long overdue :awetongue:
     
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    updated; added 6 pics and some more info
     
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    Very nice write up! I miss the thrill of the hunt.
     
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    updated with more pics, and the section on Galerina sp.
     
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    looking good :thumbup:
     
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    thanks fry! I FINALLY got all of my thumbnails to blow up, it makes the thread A LOT shorter!
     
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    Another awesome write up my man,and I've pretty much given up on ever finding these again,but I'm just glad I was fortunate enough to see them in the wild at least one time,and I owe it all to you:)
     
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    guess i was a year late:( I'm not giving up though! maybe next year. great guide, man.
     
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    unfortunately a few of my pics were linked from another site, and without considering that fact, I deleted all of my pics on that site, in a pseudo-teenage fit of anger :( I have the pics on my desktop computer, but it was connected to my projection tv and the bulb blew out. So I have to wait until I get a new bulb, so I can reupload the pics here and relink them :( sorry about that
     
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    finally got it migrated. They are out right now :) I guess I'll have to open a print to get a new picture of it, google found me no joy :(
     
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    Hi Experts! Today is May 4 2017. Yesterday I was walking in the woods along the Perkiomen Creek in Montgomery county PA and I stumbled upon a large mass of 'schrooms growing in an extended grouping on a pile ancient wet humus. Despite differences in individual morphology, wide size, and color variation, they all appeared to originate from a single very large mycelial mat - so I concluded they are a single population. They look to me in every way to be Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata except the gills seem more dense. I created a spore print (color: brownish), but I do not have a 400x compound microscope capable of 10 micron resolution--so I can't do spore morphology to be more definitive. The wet mass of all these fresh 'schrooms was nearly 20 pounds! Can any of you identify with reasonably high certainty that these are ovoideocystidiata - rather than an unknown look-alike- based on these cell phone pics? Thx!
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    Need to see the bottoms. Try to bruise them
     
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    I found these mushrooms on Long Island NY tuesday may 9th. They were growing out of woodchips below a tree and some herbaceous plants in a garden. I believe them to be
    Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata. Unfortunatly now they are too dry to take a spore print and I can't be certain. also they are dried up and look sortof different now. Are they still good to eat? Any deadly look alikes I could be mistaking them for?

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    now they look like this: IMG_3110.JPG
     
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    When in doubt (ID), through them out!
     
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    Awesome pics!

    Great thread, I personally do not consume fungi from the wild, nowhere near experienced in IDing skills.