Discussion in 'HUNTING & IDENTIFICATION' started by Wonder Girl, May 6, 2012.
Welcome to myco-tek John!
thats so true John, even I pass off about 5 mushrooms as coprinellus micaceus I really need to tune up my skills on the genus, but finding good information, that is up to date is often hard for me
On another note, john, how does it feel to be a newbie? Look, I'm a Mycologist!
them shrooms are looong gone. i feel that C. micaceus is a safe and reasonable name to give to them though.
we could say C. micaceus or something closely related or something very similar?
PS. BTW welcome to Myco-Tek John! Good to have ya here!
coprinellus micaceus complex don't sound bad
coprinellus amerimicaceus nom. prov. sensu lato?
complex does sound good though!
ever seen Family Guy where chris gets super excited about something and laughs and claps? picture me doing that instead of the clapping face lol
I probably shouldn't use big words, especially psuedo-latin, I barely understand most of them.
I stole the ameri- from Bob Zimmer/Herb baker. I apply it liberally to anything found in america
The phrase "nom. prov." is an abbreviation for the term nomem provisorium which means, "a provisional name or a name that may be changed in the future.
and sensu-auct. means "in the sense of" and "authors" respectively and lato means "broad".... so
coprinellus amerimicaceus nom. prov. sensu-auct lato means
an american coprinellus micaceus in the sense of authors broadly, that may be changed in the future. Pretty fantastical nonsensory, huh? That's how I do
Spina, Spinae, Spinae, Spinam, Spina...Amicus, Amici, Amico, Amicum, Amico...oh high school Latin declensions. The bane of my existence.
When I picked the mushrooms the stems were not hairy at all. The stem was leaning towards the opposite if I remember correctly. We had just had a series of rain showers and when I picked them the stems still seemed slick, and "slimy" if that is the right adjective to use. The stem was also very fragile, and solid in color. That's all I can remember about them.
C. micaceus can have finely hairy to smooth stems. the hairiness could have been washed off in the rain or been rubbed off when you picked them. Coprinellus truncorum is a smooth stem version of C. micaceus that also supposedly has slightly more eliptical spores but its still not proven that they are separate species
this trial key to coprinus in the pnw looks like a good read, for those interested
Here's a little table to add to SG's key. It mostly helps to sort out which genus of coprinoid mushroom you have.
table two is in this link. on page 36.
You can't hotlink pics from shroomery (they don't allow it)... all we see is the shroomery icon (you'll see it b/c it's in your cache).
sorry about that, I had it saved in my bookmarks and didn't realize it was a shroomery file
.......wow that sucks, it came out tiny ......never mind
ugh and now it's tiny. I'll fix it.
Thanks for the keys! Those are a big help. It's funny, I went outside to almost the same spot a few minutes ago to go see if any new mushrooms popped up since there has been a lot of rain. Look what I found.
don't tell anybody I told you this Agrocybe pediades group
I concur with what Someguy didn't tell you.
That makes sense, especially since those are known to pop up after rains in early summer.
Thanks for the welcome everyone, here is a link for the mushroom that we should be compairing C. micaceus to.
http://www.mycoquebec.org/bas.php?trie=C&l=l&nom=Coprinellus truncorum / Coprin des troncs&tag=Coprinellus truncorum&gro=33
Compair it and see what you think?
Separate names with a comma.