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  1. RiverDweller

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    Are you saying that the three pictures below are all in the same area and are what you consider to be the same? I went back through the thread to try to determine if that was the case, but it's not clear...lol....sorry! There are a few documented cases of wine caps that sort of match your habitat, but in general the habitat looks wrong for wine caps.

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    In this last picture, there's some small woody debris sticking out. What is the wood in this area?

    If you come across these again, you can observe some macroscopic features that would rule Stropharia rugosoannulata out. Try not to disturb the stipe and it's delicate features but dig the mushroom out carefully so that you see the entire base. Look closely at the inside of what ever is left of the ring. The upper side of the ring would be grooved and the underside would be a cogwheel pattern. If you don't observe that with the ring, this is probably not Stropharia rugosoannulata.

    Hope that helps you determine what mushroom you have :)
     
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    yes that is the only area I've ever found these,and they are all the same mushroom type.The wood in this area,is Birch,Oak,Maple,Ash,and that's just the ones I know.I'll have to look at the actual trees that are growing near them and see,next time I go out.I almost think they are growing from some underground rotting wood,but I'm not sure.All are right beside a rotten log,riddles with wood pieces all about.I should have went back out today,but I went walking instead.Thanks for the tips,I'm going to see about finding some more,and I'll dig up one to check the whole base out:)I've lived here for three years,and never found these before,and I find them fascinating:)
     
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    I punched it in matchmaker as best I could.
    stropharia riguso-annulata 76%
    stropharia aurantiaca(larietomyces ceres) 71%
    based on what I punched in, looking at the pics :shrug2:
     
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    which mushroom?I have two Stropharia looking ones.They are two different types.Thanks for helping out too,these are hard!

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    I've stared at these pictures too long already :) this is my take on these
    the buttons don't seem dark enough for stropharia RA, and there is no red in the stem, to match to larietomyces ceres
    In the pic of the bottom, the partial veil is tearing cleanly away from both the margin and the stipe. It doesn't appear to be leaving any sort of annular zone on the stipe. I would call the universal veil "membranous" but "submembranous" suits me too The pic of the cap looks orangish reddish but I see yellow in there too. It looks like the context o the cap is going to be yellow
    I wish you would have broke one, a yellow context of the cap would rule out most or all stropharia (that I looked at)
    Hypholoma species maybe even Hypholoma lateritium
    I'll stick with Stropharia for the second, larger one. I looked at a lot of stropharias, and I saw a few stropharia kauffmanii with reduced scales, and they would be a suitable size, and fit decently without those. Stropharia RA is still the best fit though, it seems
     
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    yeah,I've stared at them too long,and tried my hardest to figure it out!I think it's getting closer to an exact ID though.We have three days of rain starting tomorrow.so maybe more will pop,and I can dig the whole mushroom out:)This is just too confusing!
     
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    Hey,how do I change the spelling in the title of my thread?I noticed that I spelled stuff wrong back at the beginning,and never could figure out how to change it:)
     
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    Fixed it
     
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    Thanks buddy,you're the greatest!
     
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    Don't know about that man I think Ali was the greatest...
     
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    hahahah,that he was:)
     
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    Despite the fact that we were supposed to get drenched with three days worth of rain,we didn't get a single damn drop:mad1:I just want to give up!Anyway,while out fishing,I found tons of these Boletes all over,and they are really heavy,and meaty:)I wish they would be edible,but I'm sure they are not:-(What do you guys think about them?first three are the same.

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    Sorry you didn't get that rain :(
    For that first Bolete, do you remember what trees were around? Did it bruise blue or any color on injury?
     
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    yeah,it's just determined this severe drought is going to continue all through the rest of summer:-(As for the boletes,neither bruised at all,and they were all up and down a creek bank,but I didn't even think to see what type of trees they were growing under.There are tons,and they will be there next time I go out,so I'll check then.I believe it could have been oak though,it's our dominant species here,but I'm not certain.
     
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    Yo,missed yours buddy,I have been finding those I'm certain,but they are tiny compared to the beasts I found today,Thanks:)What do I need to do to find out 100 percent what type they are and if they're edible?
     
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    for the second I would compare Boletus subtomentosis but don't take my word or it and eat it or anything. Got a little ammonia? Windex?
     
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    I've seen B. chysenteron up to about 5 inches in diameter (12.5 centimeters)
     
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    The second bolete is a Tylopilus species.
     
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    Damn,I should have brought one of each home,I knew it! Boletus subtomentosis is rare it says,and your Id's seem spot on man:)I want to go back out,but it's so damn humid,and I've already taken my shower.They were everywhere though tons of them!