DMT Crystals

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  1. CaptainFuture

    CaptainFuture Moderator Moderator Mushroom Doctor

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    Dear Mycotek community.
    This one is a very famous one on the shroomery, so I thought I have to share it here with you, too, since not everyone is active there.
    Enjoy.

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    Since not everyone knows my DMT crystal growths from the Nexus, I thought I'd post the picture links here, too.
    Sorry, I am too lazy to do any editing here or give explainations on methods, aso.

    If you're interested here are the Nexus threads about it.
    The big DMT Crystal thread with a lot of discussion about the experience according to the size and shape of the crystals:
    https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=19058

    An Extraction comparison I did to show which method is the best.
    https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=17848

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    SOME MORE INFO ABOUT THE A/B EXTRACTION:
    Someone asked me about my experiences on my extraction tek. Since I've done around 1,5kilo bark the past weeks I got to my own ideas about an A/B tek.
    It's mostly what is written elsewhere, so I wouldn't want to start a new thread about it but on the other hand don't want to hold it back.
    So here is a short put together how I extract and re-crystallize:

    - Cook(not boil-NO bubbles) the Mimosa (not more than 100grs!) for 3 times with each 1-1,5L 5% vinegar/water till its kinda down to 3X 300ml. Will take a day to do, you're in NO hurry, just take the time, the Ayahuasca brew is cooked even over night. Cook the combined 900ml down or use it as is in a larger jar. I advise to cook it down to 500-600ml, thats way enough liquid to handle! Just be sure to filter it (NO coffeee filter, just a a wire one, the tea strainer size/1-2mm holes) while its HOT and do NOT divide the residue on the ground of the pot when its cold- its potent. (and will be no problem in the next steps.)
    - Cool down before basifying!
    - Basify with pure lye till its dark black. (around 75grs. per liter)
    - COOL while stirring in the lye (slowly bit by bit)!
    - Let sit for 2-3 hours, maybe shake once in a while. But be sure to shake before starting the pulling.
    - Heat it to 20-25degr. celsius in hot water bath (30-35 degrees water) and heat the NAPHTA, too. Use pure light naphta. (the lighter the benzine, the less emulsions you have, f.e. washbenzine is too heavy)
    - Use around 2-3cm above the liquid for your pulls. (Depends on the mass of liquid how much it is.)
    - Do not shake but mix the naphta over 5 mins around in the jar. (turning the jar upside down over and over again)
    - Let sit for 5-10mins. It will have divided by then.
    - Suck the naphta out as far as you can with a 10-20ml syringe.
    - Swap the naphta from one little bowl to another if you sucked brown liquid with it to get rid of it.
    - Wrap the final bowl and put in the freezer.
    - Wait 3-4 hours till the naphta is clear and slowly pour it out. Let the white fluffy crystals dry for a few hours.
    - REPEAT the pulling for 3 times (total 4) and one other time after letting the liquid sit for another 24h. Then you have in my experience everything out of the bark.
    - Scrape all crystals and put them together by their color. Pure white together and every other pulling which is yellow or even slightly yellow on a different pile.

    Re-x:
    - Pour 50ml-100ml naphta into a bowl and heat it from below in a water bath. (around 30-35degr. celsius- NOT hotter)
    - Pour in all yellow stuff/crystals you got out and mix it on and on while the naphta slowly gets warm. (maybe use new warm water if its not enough) Or use little more naphta if it seems to lack solvent for full saturation.
    - There will be a yellow waxy/oily liquid devide from the naphta in a bubble on the ground. Just mix through that a few times to be sure to get the dmt out of it, but DON'T try to mix it in the naphta- this is the goo (wax, fat, DMToxide) you want to get rid of!
    - Pour over in a different little bowl, carefully look if some of the goo is poured with it- try hard to avoid to pour it over. If there still is some, use another little bowl.
    - Place again in the waterbath to keep the naphta warm. Pour in the last, the white stuff you got out (1st and maybe 2nd pulling).
    - If there will be (even with white DMT there might be) more goo at the ground, repeat the pouring over step, until you have clear naphta.
    - wrap it with clear foil (airtight, no holes) and let sit for 24-48hrs. There will be beautiful crystals forming after 8-10 hours while the Naphta slowly evaps through the foil pores.
    - While the naphta evaps it gets more yellow, so the impurities (mostly Oxides and yellow tint) which are left in it will be concentrated.
    - Swap over/Divide the naphta in a new bowl, wrap it and let that sit to finally evap all naphta after a few days. (this way the remaining slight yellow color will be evapped away from the initial 24-48hrs crystals and they are kept cleaner). Let the crystals dry a few hours before carefully (they break easily) scraping them.


    More info:
    - It's best to cook the bark that long to get anything out of the bark.
    - Keep the mixed basified liquid not too hot, too avoid pulling too much unwanted stuff and to avoid the oxidation of the DMT.
    Though according to others its safe to heat DMT up to 100degrees, I found that higher than 40 degrees celsius it begins to oxidate too much!
    - There's no need to let the naphta sit for hours after mixing, neither a need to shake it (this pulls too much remaining bark powder into it)
    Thanks to Q21s ideas I found mixing it over 5mins and then doing 4 pullings in a row gets almost all of the DMT molecules out. They are floating freely around in the liquid 2-3hours after basification. The final 24hrs pull gets the very last (only very few) DMT out.
    - Re-x is quite easy. Just stick to what I wrote. Its best to use small glass bowls for that. (have around 3-4 of them) Heating too much isn't good cause as stated above the DMT oxidizes easily.
    - No need for 'food safe' extractions, there is no lye left in the final crystals PLUs they are more stable and therefore not easy oxidized if stored airtight in the freezer. So no need for salting either. Its really a enlightening feeling to grow crystals, almost like mushroom growing, but way faster.
     
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  2. Professor PinHead

    Professor PinHead Lost in the Tek.... Administrator Mushroom Doctor Cannabis Doctor Supporter

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    Jesus Captain! That hardly looks lazy to me man! Those pix are awesome! :hdrool:
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    Weller Student of Nature Moderator Cannabis Doctor Cacti Doctor

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    I've seen these before Captain, but they are definitely worth another viewing. Some stunning crystals there :super:
     
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    Sorry to double post but this is ridiculous!
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    Gives me a tear of joy in my minds eye looking at those crystals, awesome tek too
     
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    It really makes me want to run some jerky through an A/B extraction and recrystalize some mescaline too while I'm at it....
     
  7. CaptainFuture

    CaptainFuture Moderator Moderator Mushroom Doctor

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    I am uploading them onto the mycotek servers, atm, so there will be thumps to see (like it should)
    Just takes some time- 370mb. (hope thats ok)

    Just started another Limetek Extraction today, want to have the lovely flavour around again. I still have lots of 'extracted material' in the freezer, but its just such a fun to extract and grow crystals. :)
     
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    Those are some crazy looking yeilds by the way bro, :super:
     
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    GGTBod Chronicles of Bodley Administrator Cannabis Doctor Cacti Doctor

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    I have 5 x 50mg left before i need to re-tek, currently having unreal difficulties getting anyone to agree to send me a bag of bark/bark powder, seems UK customs is taking an interest in MHRB. If it keeps up i will resort to buying lots of stupid little amounts hoping several get through
     
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    so beautiful.....wow
     
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    I got shivers! Beautiful.
     
  12. CaptainFuture

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    Ok, uploading done. Sorry they all mixed up, but at least all are there.
    The uploading system of myco-tek is the best I've ever seen, Prof, really comfortable.

    And Prof.- Mescaline crystals are boring ;) (For me)They look like icecrystals on the window. Ok, so still interesting, but they won't get as shaped as the DMT beauties.

    By the way the greatest 'success' were those diamonds which twice grew:
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    I sooo wanna do it!
    But it looks to complicated for the first timer + i have no option of using kitchen that long.
    Would one need to cook MHRB the whole day even if its already in 'dust' form (the correct word escapes me)?
    Can you recommend a very easy method for first timer? It doesn't have to give much product in the end. I just wanna try it a little and maybe later do this when i feel more comfortable with it?

    Btw: I am really glad to have you here and your results are superior to anything i saw!
     
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    Weller Student of Nature Moderator Cannabis Doctor Cacti Doctor

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    @ harpo. Have a look for STB (straight to base) very simple method of extraction without any cooking :super:
     
  15. CaptainFuture

    CaptainFuture Moderator Moderator Mushroom Doctor

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    Better do a limetek extraction. Much easier and doesn't need a kitchen.
    Its very easy and has superclean results.
     
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    :super: Great work Captain!

    Thanks for adding. :)
     
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    Can you point me to a reliable source for it?
     
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    Weller Student of Nature Moderator Cannabis Doctor Cacti Doctor

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    It's a difficult choice, but these are my faves..... absolutely beautiful.

    Was anything done differently to grow these, or was it just a cosmic stroke of luck?

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  20. GGTBod

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    It would almost be a shame to vape them, almost. if i manage to get a batch of bark i'll be following the tek for pure crystals, when i was looking at the pics the other day i was drooling over having a few vials of them in the deepfreeze