FewTrueSeed Medicinal Cannabis Thread

Discussion in 'Cannabis Grow Logs' started by FewTrueSeed, Oct 13, 2016.

  1. Essence

    Essence Well-Known Member

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    Trim, FIM, LST, Flux, Bonsai or just let them go wild lol. I usually let the girls tell me. First time strains are always grown wild so we can get to know each other. Torture is never cool on a first date. :hehehe:

    Sorry man, didn't mean to post a thread on your thread. :facepalm: Didn't look so big at the time.

    Here's what CS can get you. The Prof's Gorilla Dog getting close.
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    Says you.
     
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    Ok. So the coloidal silver spray has done nothing yet. I ordered the chemichals to make my own. In some of my frustration i may have sprayed small amounts on surrouning buds. How dangerous is it to smoke bud that has been sprayed with the solution?
     
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    Funny you mentioned that lol. I can't find a dang thing about it. I may have been too stoned when I did it, but I'm definitely too stoned to do try and find out now. :getblazed:

    I can say if it looks stressed it is pretty much ruined. As far as rogue misting (perfectly normal btw lol), I think it is really a case by case situation. You'll taste it though. And immediately throw out the bowl. Nasty. I toss anything that looks like it came in contact, but even then bits and pieces can slip by. I prefer reversing and scrapping the whole plant really, but situations always dictate course of action. ;)

    It can take a while for some strains to show effect. I've even heard of a few tries that didn't work on the web, but I have yet to see it personally. As a matter of fact I've been discovering we may be wasting CS using the current directions. Here's a my personal cut White Widow being reversed. The catch is she was only treated twice a day for two days with CS. This is amazingly similar to an STS reversal which shows little if any stress or damage from treatments like CS does. The only other factors that may be coming into play are that she is in a very small pot and she is/was somewhat nitrogen starved.
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    Hey thanks @Essence i have been treating mine for more than two weeks no sighn. :( The product i bought may just be too weak. I did order my own ingredients. Both coloidal silver and sodium sulfate have burning points well above a thousand degrees F. It might be safe in the vaporizer. I will avoid applied areas anyway. looks good!
     
  6. Essence

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    Good point ;) Thanks!

    I use 50ppm CS. The usual routine is twice a day for two weeks. It takes a while from there typically. An extra week or so of treatment shouldn't be a problem. IMO it's somewhat strain dependent as well as other conditions as to exactly how long. Sometimes it's a few days, sometimes a few weeks. Harvesting the rest of the plant before the reversed flowers explode is fairly normal. I guess that's why the lowest branches are treated if the whole plant isn't.
    I have Gorilla Dawg and American Pie reversed stumps going right now lol. Been smoking the harvest for at least a week. It took at least a week to dry and the reversed stumps are just now starting to make pollen.
    I did forget to mention check your reversed buds for seeds before you throw it out. You'll find them from time to time.
     
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    I have made my STS and have treated every day for a week. That should work. The product i bought before was garbage. Sour Bannana Chisel, Sour orange, Purple Diesel, Critical Mass, Purple Valley OG, and Amnesia are on the reversal list. Moving towards the Landrace, kindbud, CBD side of things after this mess is over with.

    The Purple Diesel and Critical Mass just went into flowering.

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    The Sour Bannana Chisel and Sour Orange are getting chopped and lower buds saved for STS. Not the best phenos. :(

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    Very impressed with this Amnesia. Great leaf ratio very fast and heavy. Keeper!

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    Cleaning up the yard i found a small planter with a forgotten clone in it, nestled in some tall grass. Overwinter cured! Stuck that baby right in the Pax and continued my cleaning. Real tasty.

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    So, you've been able to leave a branch on the plant at harvest, use the STS method on that stump and cut it into the zip lock bag in the pic from the other day you posted?
    That looked like it had flowered, but I didn't think too much about it at the time...

    Now I see, that's really convenient cause it cuts down on a lot of the cross contamination issues when you self at the start of flower... This can be done in another room/tent, after harvest... I've got some tricks to use now, thanks to you, on some fem plants I have been wanting to self, but didn't want all the seeds...
     
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    Close, but your giving me more ideas lol.

    The American Pie and Gorilla Dawg were treated using 50ppm CS under the conventional method. Treat two times a day for two weeks. The treatment begins at flip or just after. This method only selfs on occasion. Typically the untreated female buds finish up before the reversed male flowers really begin to dump pollen. I just harvest the untreated portion of the plant when it's ready and let the reversal continue with what remains. Sometimes I'll separate it and air pollinate a few select females. Sometimes it just collection or both. Either way you can expect a reversed stump to continue doing it's thing for another 3-4 weeks easily.

    The STS method is only a few treatments of home made STS over the period of a few days or a week. Treatment is done a week or two before flip. I've found it to be somewhat loose and forgiving in it's parameters but treatment always has to be done before flip. It's just the opposite of the conventional CS method here. There are never any reversed stumps. The reversed male flowers are harvested a few weeks before the normal buds finish. It commonly selfs when only a lower branch is treated.

    That's what makes the Widow interesting is it was treated with CS instead of STS, but using the STS schedule. Some people are beginning to verify this at another forum as well. There seems to be some scheduling leniency with the CS also. Some report before flip and some after flip treatments that had been forgotten or abandoned. I'm thinking we may once again be victims of the apes in a cage philosophy that often applies to cannabis cultivation lol. Both methods are proven and I'm sure there was a lot of work put into it so as usual no disrespect. I just think it needs to be approached with an open mind. There's a lot of work that needs to be done before we call the modified version proven and enter it into the scrolls. We should probably start a thread in regards.

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    Nice find FTS! At least yours was outdoors so that's a much better excuse than the one that's been hanging right in front of my face at the washing machine for about three months :facepalm:
     
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    How many applications does this require ?? For my colodial silver I am applying for weeks at a time.. is this similar ??
     
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    Is it not worth applying STS after the flip? I was hoping i could get some seed out of a late run? I have two i did AS they were being flipped. Applied for a weeks time once a day heavily. That should work right?
     
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    Sodium Thiosulfate Silver is typically applied once or twice depending on who's directions. Some say a week before flip and then again a few days before flip. Others say one treatment let dry and flip immediately. I usually do at least one treatment a week before and if I remember maybe a second, but so far have noticed no difference with the extra treatment. One of several factors that got me thinking of trying Colloidal Silver in lieu of STS. If it works consistently then it will bring down the cost of the CS substantially. Much closer to that of the STS which in the end costs less than the distilled water you mix it with.
     
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    Should be fine. Treatments need about 4 weeks to begin showing reversed flowers. Like I said there seems to be some forgiveness here deviating from the original directions. Hard to believe it's gone so long without being revisited. These teks were released over ten years ago.
     
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    Sour Bannana Chisel and Sour Orange.
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    I Spy with my little eye.......Reversal :) Amnesia, Purple Deisel

    STS sucsess!!

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    Sweet!
     
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    Sour Orange

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    Banana Chisel- Some purple in there for sure

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    Amnesia Reversed STS Pollen Sac

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    This is my first attempt with Cs on a white widow auto. Making sure I know what I'm doing so I can make feminized missing Link seeds. I will be using STS on my next batch of lemon OG before using it on the missing link.
     

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