Pioppino Trials

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  1. Nichrome

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    So I am trying to fruit Pioppinos without casing and until now this is what the two week old blocks look like. Any suggestions?

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    Looks fine, mine take about 3-4 weeks in incubation.Let them pin in the bag and then cut away like for kings.
     
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    Bag remained the same until now and it has been fully colonised since about 3 weeks. What induces them to pin @MorePies ?
     
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    Seemed like light helped mine to pin. I'm going to try folding the bag over and cutting a couple 2" slits in the side (sort of like H E).
     
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    Try slight temp drop and add airflow to trigger pinning
     
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    Honestly, I just let them be in incubation. They seem to like getting pretty wet in fruiting and then drying off, then getting wet again.
     
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    Still no pins :( I have tried increasing airflow but all I got are some small red bugs inside the bag. Do not know what I will try next.

    @MorePies , I do not understand the wet/dry thing. Can you explain better pls?
     
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    Misted or humidifier until visible damp, then allowed to dry before misting again.
     
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    im curious of why with out a casing layer ? dont get me wrong i like experiments but
    even if it fruits like that you would get better performance if you case it
     
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    Better Pepino Growers than myself regularly get one pound Plus on a 5 or 6 lb substrate block uncased. I'm working on getting better genetics and dialing in my systems to meet that but currently I get 3/4 of a pound of the first flush and then about 3 ounces on the second uncased. So I ask you with results like this why go to the trouble of casing and subsequently having to deal with that casing layer on the fruit bodies when harvesting?
     
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    fruits quality ,even pinset first things that come to mind
    but what ever works for you to each his own
     
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    It has become chilling here at 10C but still no pins. I think I will have to revert to casing to hopefully see some pins!
     
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    This is the current result of 50-50 Plus casing. Unfortunately, I have put far too much casing (approx 1.5 inches) but still the myc came through...a bit irregularly though. Unfortunately again, now I will be away for a week so most probably I will not be here to see it pinning.

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    i have gotten decent pins without casing. after bag was fully colonized i cut 2 or 3 small rectangles, think .5-1"x1.5-3" openings, on the side or bottom after rolling any extra loose bag down from the top and flipping it over.
     
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    So if I understand correctly you toll down the sides of the top of the bag but the pins form in the rectangular cuts on the sides??? Have you got any pics pls?
     
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    here i did it with lions mane but instead of cutting rectangular holes i just poked a hole with wooden chop sticks or cut a little "X" in the bottom. you have to make sure to roll the top down TIGHT, i often ended up throwing a patch of masking tape on it after rolling it down. i found that the rectangular opening got the best flushes (at least for me) of piopinno as well as being easy to harvest.
     
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    This is a method I have not tried yet. When you say rolling the top down you mean winding the bag tight to eliminate all the air beneathe the bag opening right?
     
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    yes. you take the top of the bag (where the air exchange happens and the is no substrate/spawn) and roll it down tight, TIGHT! so there is no room for the mushrooms to fruit and flip them bad boys over and then cut (or in the case of lions mane punch) your opening for fruiting.
     
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    Perfect! And what are your fruiting parameters (I hope I am not asking for too much, if I am, I apologize)?
     
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    i have an ultrasonic inside my little tent and a humidifier blowing in fresh air keeping it around 95-100 humidity based on a hydrometer inside the tent, and not too much condensation on the inside of the tent (not too many drops running down the inside).