Grain heavy post

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  1. redcat

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    Hey Mainframe. You're doing a great job. Just keep at it and you'll figure out any problems. Anyway...Im seeing in the first few jars a lot of burst/cracked grains. How are you hydrating your grains ? This is the point where most growers screw over the whole grow. There has been talk about boiling grains for 15 minutes and that is incorrect with every grain under the sun. Burst/cracked grains will lead to bacteria and failure and boiling for 15 minutes will burst your grains for sure. So....Whats your method ?
     
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    Thanks redcat!:D. My method up to this point has been wing that shit. Perhaps a little too much. But I soak anywhere from 18-24 hours after rinsing. Then put on stove and slowly bring to simmer. Simmer Usually about 15 mins. Then when I see some burst grains I stop and run under cold water.( I was under the impression burst grains weren't a huge deal.) Then I drain and sterilize. I moved onto wbs when I couldn't get the grains right after a few tries. And it seems to have come out much better. I took a pic this morning but I came out blurry. Anyway it looks well hydrated and way less burst grains.
     
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    A few burst grains wont hurt you but too many cause problems. Your method of simmering and babysitting the grains works well. Ive used it for years. Stopping the simmer at the point of a few burst grains or just 1 burst grain works well. Ive come up with a no heat method. Simply put...A cold soak. The only burst grains you'll have came out of the bag that way.
     
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    Oooooo that's interesting, I'm a busy person so I would love a link to said method.
     
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    My mouth is the link...lol. You've just been linked. Small amount of grains go into the refrigerator and larger quantities a beer cooler with ice water. Rinse..let drip dry...done.
     
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    Worth noting from what you said earlier the soak time is longer since there is no heat involved, 3 days right?
     
  7. Mainframe

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    So put grains in a pot of water and put in the fridge? For how long?
     
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    He told me 3 days, I havent tried it yet to have opinions on my own. Trying for next batch.

    I can say at least here the cold aspect is important as if I even go 24 hours at room temp rye soak it starts to ferment, 2 days and it is down right funky. Cold seemed to prevent that.
     
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    Gotcha. Well I'll give it a go with a small batch. My cooker only fits Two jars at a time. So looking forward to buying a real pressure cooker.
     
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    yeah you can get yourself buried in colonizing grains once you start buying 50lb bags and get a 23 quart PC with lots of agar plates all around
     
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  11. Mainframe

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    That's the goal man. #overgrow
     
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    Thats it. Give it a solid 3 days soaking. Add powdered food grade gypsum to the soak water. When using a cooler i have gallon milk jugs filled with water and frozen to use as my ice. Makes it even easier not fighting with ice trays. Two liter soda bottles work great too.
    Let them drip dry for fifteen minutes and load into jars.
     
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  13. Mainframe

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    Sweet thanks redcat! I'll start soaking today. Since I've got those syringes made up.
     
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    I buy 5lb bags of rye berries for about 15$. Not too bad. Rice is also cheap and I've noticed more people starting to use it, tho it tends to stick together easily. I use rye
     
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    Getting 50lbs of rye for $32. Can't argue with that.
     
  16. Mainframe

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    Any clue what's up with the whispy looking growth. Jars are a lot more colonized with the whispy shit.
     
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    Any pics ? Time will tell for sure. If its fast growth its most likely a contam.
     
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    Were these jars from an LC ?
     
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    Yes. I had expanded an LC and used that to noc these up.