Too late to fruit cyans in the uk ?

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  1. lennon

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    Hi Guys, after a long time I have started to run myc again... this is due to a great find in my sisters garden of some beautiful wavy caps that were imported on wood chip she was laying in her garden.
    I used stem butts on an manky old bit of cardboard out of my wormery ... since then I have been slowly adding beach chips with worm castings as I have barrels worm shite at this point.
    I now have a few bags of myc in my cupboard and wanted to put some out to fruit in tubs with a casing of worm castings and living moss. But is it too late ?
    Temps are about 9 or 10 C or 49F at the moment.
    Hope someone can help
     
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    I'm not familiar with h that species. I would suggest a Google search about the required environment.let me see what I can find.
     
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    Quick search got me this result.

    "Psilocybe cyanescens requires a temperature of 50º - 60º F to fruit. The best way to do this is to plan your growth cycle so that you'll be ready with a colonized spawn bed when the temperature outside is around 50º F for at least 12 hours a day."
     
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    Too Late .Keep building up your colonized woodchips throughout the winter and put your patch out in the spring. Make as much chips as you can. If you're lucky it will fruit that fall.
     
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    Thanks guys, you have just backed up what I was thinking... I was tempted to try and fruit one of my bags outside in a tub, but realised the season was already apon us. We do not have these little beauties around here so I am planning to spend the winter bulking up and lay my bed in spring.
     
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    My run so far ... I've been using barley straw, beech chips, and worm castings. Since I've started to experiment with the straw the myc has become alot more rhyzomorphic.
    I'm thinking of using the rest of the straw to bulk out the spawn I have, as it's cheap, runs fast and I have loads , before returning to mainly wood based spawn for the beds.

    Let's get running ...
     
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    So i pasteurized another load of straw yesterday and filled my large myco bag, (roughly) layering spawn and straw .
    So fingers crossed in a few weeks it will be ready to bulk out again, I think it was approximately 1:1.:fingerscrossed:

    I also pasteurized a small jar of shop bought compost that consists of 58% peat and the rest is coir and some composted woody and green garden waste, as an experiment to see if I can use it as a cheap bulking substrate. The centre of the jar has a couple o spoons of spawn and I slid one a myciated chip down the side of the jar so I can watch its reaction to the new sub... Let's see how it goes..:jeez:
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    So 10 days in a cupboard and it seems to have recovered.
    The centre of myc has found it's way to the edge of the jar.
    I think it would possibly be ok to add to the mix of hard wood /straw /castings although I'm gonna leave it to colonise further. Anyone have any doubts or suggestions?
     
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    20191130_193616.jpg I used Verve multi purpose compost from B'n'Q cost £8.49 for 125L bag, but i think you can get smaller ones for about 5 quid. 20191130_192430.jpg so I'm hoping it will work out as a supplement to my wood mix , I buy it for my house plants anyway so nothing lost if not.
     
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    So I've got an update on the ole cyans ....
    So this happened last week. 20201010_123056.jpg
    :mushrooms:...all looks good . So very happy !
    20200825_141722.jpg this was the bed with old sacks on top .

    There are also two more tubs ... one is fruiting the other I fear may have been smothered out with compost . ...
    but I did manage to fruit a small jar in my fridge mid July. 20200803_200924.jpg 20200808_121240.jpg more updates to come . And I will explain the method I used when.i have more time.
     

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    The fridge!! Good thinkin!!
     
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    Dude u are a rock star! I was looking to see if I could help but looks like I need to ask u when the time comes would love to hear your method.this is one I’m trying to get hold of
     
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    so here is a lil slide show of the Fridge Tek experiment . :popcorn:

    Twas basically just a couple of spoons of myciated beech chips surrounded in cheap compost.
    Placed in a half pint jar , then into a mycobag bag with daily spray (rain) morning and sometimes night too , and full air exchange with the rain and fridge maintained a stable 45°. 20201017_131907.jpg

    Thats about it ...Mid june or July micro flush. Lol .
     
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    Here's what I did ...:england:

    Step 1. Found cyans in my sisters garden imported on some redwood bark from Wicks building supply store that she had used to mulch.

    Step 2. Ate said mushrooms purely to verify quality you understand. :raveface: placing the butts on manky wet cardboard from my wormery.
    Misting when needed and adding more card as it slowly grew.

    Step 3. The myc had seemed to stall at some point so I decided to give them there first munch of beech chips.
    The beech chips were from a pet shop, the type that you have for reptiles.
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    I decided to pasturise the chips although they are kiln dried anyway. This was because I was running the myc indoors at first and didnt want to risk losing what precious little myc I had.
    I just stuck the chips in my slow cooker with water on low for a few hrs. This fully hydrates the chips too.

    Step 4. Once the myc had taken the chips I pasturised the next load of chips and this time added a handful of worm castings to the mix .
    I added the new substrate at a ratio of 1:1.
    This is when things started to pick up speed.
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    Step 5 . Repeating as before I once the mycobag was almost full. I started adding straw aswell as chips just to bulk it out a bit ...this triggered some crazy rhyzomorphic action. 20191130_183928.jpg

    This is where we get too ... 20191112_134810.jpg

    I continued in this way until I had filled a few myco bags ... then I decided that I would break out the big boy.... 20191008_191554.jpg
    I layered the fresh straw, chips and colonised chips. At this point the run was doubling in size quite quickly. Still bulking out at 1:1 .
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    Once the bag was full I was running out of room so i took the decision to move the whole lot into a tub.... 20191130_184052.jpg
    I did not make this decision lightly .. I debated it for a while as I didnt want to lose everything it had taken so long to build up... and I nearly did....

    For some reason I neglected to photograph the tub but it was a big tub and I continued layering until the tub was almost full and solid with myc....

    this was my first mistake... what I didnt account for was the center of the tub heating up ..
    Whilst inspecting the growth I spotted something terrible..... green mold.!!! And right in the middle of the tub !!:zomgwtf:

    I then moved everything outside and removed as much of the tainted chips as possible and dumped the lot into a hydro tray aprox 4 or 5 inches deep and about 4ft long I added more chips staw worm poo and some cheap compost and hessian sacks. 20200728_211009.jpg

    I also had a couple of bags of wood chip I got off a gardening job fresh out the chipper, I had thrown a handful of myc'd chips into .. and it ripped thru neglected in full sun all summer . So I added them to separate large tubs. 20200826_143827.jpg

    I have since kept them moist and otherwise ignored them until this happened.... 20201006_174222.jpg :growshrooms::mushrooms:
     
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    Looking forward to updates Lennon!
     
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    This is the moment I realised it was happening !!
    Sorry for the dodgy camera work :jeez:
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    These are in one of the tubs 20201015_075640.jpg
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    That is down right beautiful! I check every spot of wood chips I pass one day I will get lucky .Amazing how thick that mycelium is very pretty and seems to like the straw doesn’t it .