Dehydrator Temperature?

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  1. MindBender

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    Just wondering what the best temperature is to run a dehydrator at. I got a 4 tray Excalibur....any ideas would be much appreciated. Thank you
     
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    i run mine around 33c (91f) ,psilocybin melting point, 220–228 °C (428–442 °F)
     
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    Awesome thanks! I was running it at 95. Thank you for your help GGTBod.:b&b:
     
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    95 will be sweet im sure , we are well below degradation temps
     
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    I was always afraid to ruin the actives running the dehydrator too hot . One day i decided to make cubensis chocolate chip cookies and was convinced the oven at 350 degrees would ruin the actives. I made a batch of cubensis chocolate chip cookies anyway and passed them around. Everybody felt the 3g cubensis cookie dose was great and tripped out nicely. I do run my dehydrator slightly warmer than u guys. I run mine at 135 and everything seems to be ok. For whatever reason when i run my dehydrator at 95 the shrooms take excessively long to dry. I like to get the job done in 24hrs.
     
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    The more I runs I dry the more I’m convinced that speed is very important more so then low temps within reason of course .not sure what my dehydrator runs but I’d say 135 140 it isn’t adjustable.but this is just an opinion of course .bod and red cat have way more experience.
     
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    Thank you, I try a batch jut to see where your at, but 95 seems to be perfect. I have an endless amount of patience.
     
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    Mine is preset to around 165F it works ok for me, just have to keep a close eye on them.
     
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    I have not used my dehydrator yet as I have only had small amounts to dry so far. Also, I am nervous, I bought it on fb marketplace without instructions and there is only one setting. Any advice?
     
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    Use it. Dont be worried about excess heat cause the losses will be unnoticeable. Give your shrooms 24hrs in the dehydrator and then check for cracker dry. They usually are cracker dry after 24hrs but you should check to be sure.
     
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    Thanks, can u tell me if this white overgrowth is contamination or a natural part of the shroom life cycle?
     

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    It looks ok to me and is not contamination.
     
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    I had a presto dehydrator with one setting, 165F, this is pretty high tho so I used to check every 2 hrs, took5 or 6hrs to dry on high heat. Make sure they don't cook. Sometimes I left the lid off so it didn't get too hot.
     
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    Thanks everyone. The white growth had to brr we overlay it was definitely preventing pin formation. I scratched it up a lil and am hoping problem solved...
     
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    Cheers, my first post here.

    The melting point of psilocybin only says on which temp the pure crystalized actives melt, degradation is a different story.

    Primarily light, high temps and oxygen degrade the actives.
    Independent of the temperature for example, psilocybin phosphorylates to psilocin which is alot less stable compared to psilocybin.

    Higher temperatures accelerate the oxydization.
    Here a chart from a pretty recent study

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    The samples of this study were only heated for 30 minutes.


    I decided to dry on the lowest setting in the dehydrator which is 45 Celsius (113 fahrenheit).

    Most people still think that higher temps dont influence the amount of actives at all and dry on the highest settings.
    Thats ok if you want to, I'd just not do it.

    The highest concentration was found in on room temp dried fruits (in the dark - very important because light degrades the actives).

    Hope that helped a little.

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    Thank u, that was very informative
     
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    One little thing...are you saying I can dry them enough just sitting on the top shelf of my closet in the dark?
     
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    Great Post :hatsoff:

    I keep mine at 35c which is about 92f, but definitely air dried in the dark causes the least degradation, varieties high in psilocin and low in psilocybin are brutal for rapid degradation of potency , seen many folks make them almost innert in a dehydrator at any temp
     
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    We used to just thread them on a needle and thread through the stem and hang the strings wall to wall in a dark room with a gentle fan oscillating blowing air around them, 2 days like that was usually enough, works perfect in small batches if you've got the space, as long as there is moving air they dry out instead of rotting
     
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    I've dried on newspaper for a good while without a fan and put them into jars with silica gel pads to finish the drying.
    Without help they never get to cracker dry which is what we want for long term storage.

    For a few reasons I've switched to dehydrator drying tho.
    The actives are water soluble and the newspaper sucks the water out of the fruit bodies, I think there might be some of the magic lost to the newspaper but cant say for sure.

    As mentioned before you will always have to help the end of the drying process (if you dont plan to eat them all in the next time after your harvest), the dehydrator makes it easy - load, set, wait and vacuumate for long term storage, is how I do it.
    Alternatively you can use silica gel or another non toxic drying agent to get all of the moisture out once they are room dry.

    Like Bod says, small batches can easily be dried by hanging or with a fan but monotub harvests are usually too big to have them lay around.

    He brings another good point with rotting.
    Inside of your closed might be risky, the rh inside of your closet raises and the air stands.
    Maybe if you open it daily to exchange air but not sure if I would want to try that, they smell also, could maybe get your clothes smell like mushs.

    Fan drying and desiccant finish is most likely the best way to keep the most intact for small to medium batches in a private household but takes longer and some extra steps compared to loading a dehydrator
     
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