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  1. GlassKrakr

    GlassKrakr Well-Known Member

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    I put 1000 g of acacia in distilled water brought down to a ph of 3.5- 4. Tomorrow will be the fifth day it's been soaking. I plan on pulling it tomorrow. I've never done this before but i have "high" hopes. Wish me luck.

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    What's it gonna be?
     
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    Ahhh shit my up all night getting stoned 7,58 am on a saturday morning brain just joined in and i am totally with it :lmao: best of luck
     
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    treewood mediocre mycologist Moderator Mushroom Doctor Supporter

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    https://mycotek.org/index.php?threads/dmt-crystals.3224/

    this is that thread...i bet you don't get any pulling done cause you will be drooling to much. haha

    here is me if you havn't already found https://mycotek.org/index.php?threads/trees-deem.8042/

    best of luck...i want to get some more bark. I never tried that kind you using..I think its one I heard of thats less "tracked"?

    I don't know much about A/B Or STB but which one are you doing? Your doing the A now correct?

    I was always under the impression that you had to do an acid on the stove for hours then get rid of the bark and base it and then pull it. Or just say f the A and base it and pull it.

    Enlighten me :)
     
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    A quick note before I go any further. This is my first attempt. Nothing I say should be taken as fact. I have done extensive research and I asked a lot of questions from people that have produced good results. If I am wrong about anything please let me know.

    You shouldn't go straight to base with acacia. The acid bath is necessary to defat the plant matter.
    Before I started the acid bath I froze and thawed the bark powder several times to break down cell walls and aid extraction. While reading all of the teks for A/B extraction I noticed there were various opinions about how much heat to use. It ranged from a very light simmer to a full on rolling boil. A very knowledgeable person on ig that's been doing it for years told me he's tried it all ways. He gets the best results with a five day soak. In his experience the hot acid bath reduced yields regardless of the amount of heat. Looking at his results I believe he knows what he's talking about.
    Next I'm going to strain it and do a pre base naptha pull. This will help reduce impurities that would come out in the post base naptha pull. The deem will stay with the water because it is not soluble as an acid. Both the water and naptha will be warmed for this step via a hot water bath.
    Next I'll add the lye slowly to the water to raise the ph. Once I hit my target I'll add more warm naptha to pull the deem.
    Next is decant and percip. I'll let it percip at room temp for 24 hours. My research has indicated that what comes out at room temp will be the purest deem. I'll filter that then freeze precip the remaining naptha.
    Next, if I've done it right, I'll enjoy the fruits of my labor.
    I'm open to any suggestions. I have four jars and am definitely not going to run them all at once in case I fuck something up. I'm going to run to the depot and wally world real quick to pick up the rest of the materials I need. I'll post pictures of the process as I go.
     
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    cool man...im with you and I don't know much either..i didn't realize you could soak for 5 days in acid...that would be awesome..boiling on stove for hours has kept me from doing the ACID step.

    Soo after you strain you will add some naptha and just make a pull and toss that naptha?

    How long will you let it stay in the base? How much naptha you going to use per pull? Will you reduce the amount of naptha before you freeze precip?


    I have ended up getting like 5-6 grams in my life. I have had every problem from letting the fan blow on the naptha too long to where it blew everything off the dish to getting mostly goo.



    Ya I always loved covering the dish with saran rap and letting it precip nice but few crystals.
     
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    I'm going to save the first naptha just in case. I'm pretty sure he meant for me to toss it when he gave me that advice. I'm waiting on clarification on that. I'll start the second naptha pull immediately after adding the base. I have measurements for everything bssed off of 1000 gs of bark. I broke it down to quarters in case I fuck up. I don't remember the exact amount but I'm about to look it up. I'm not going to reduce the naptha. I know if you put too much you won't be able to get it to precip. It has to be saturated. That's why naptha pulls are done warm.

    I'm going to tweak my straining technique. This worked but it could be improved. I zip tied a shirt to a half gallon jar. Afte I got it all in it was a bitch to get the shirt out. I had to remove some bark. I'll save that and run it later. I didn't check the picture quality before moving on so one is blurry.

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    And it's bath time.

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    Here's the pre base naptha wash.
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    I need to touch up my decanting skills. This came out of the pre base naptha pull. I assume that fats or other undesirable matter. Until I get clarification I'm keeping it.

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    Here's the lye going in. I added 62.5 g in three increments two minutes apart. This was right after the second one.

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    Here's the naptha added (pre shake) to extract the now freebase dmt. This started with 250 g of bark and 1200 ml of water. I added 250 ml of naptha.

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    Here it is sitting in a hot water bath @ 130°f separating from a vigorous shake.

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    Here's a small sample I couldn't help but take between shakes. It turned milky immediately as it cooled and is now in the freezer. I couldn't help myself. I'm not going to freeze precip the rest immediately.

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    Here it is after all that shaking.

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    Here's the first pull decanted. I'll let this sit 12 hours, filter out any crystals that form at room temp, freeze percip for 24 hours, then pour it back in for my second pull.

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    It's already turning milky in the time it toik to make this post.

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    I checked the small sample I put in the freezer. It looks great.

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    I am stricken with interest. The process looks fun. I love doing research and I love 'mad science' - I do not have the balls to D-cipher the mysteries of the universe though, maybe if I was younger....or older...

    Nice job with the steady stream of photos. Helps to see the process as well as read the steps.
     
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    Thanks Pistol. Don't be scared. It's extremely enjoyable. I was probably 35 the first time I did it. I wish I would have started sooner.

    I started heating everything up for the second pull. If time allows I'll combine the last three jars with the remaining 750 g of bark and pull them today.

    The 12 hours at room temp was a waste of time. I won't be doing that again. Here's the first pull 2 hours in to freeze percip. There's a nice collection of white crystals forming on the bottom.

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    I'm running the second pull at 150°f. It looks like it pulled about the same amount based on the color. I'll be using 150° from now on.

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    Here's the last 750 g split in to two jars. I got clarification on the pre base naptha wash @treewood. It is to help defat and is tossed. 150°f is confirmed to be the right temp also. Be sure to vent the lids often to relieve pressure.If I've done everything right I can expect 15 + gs between all of the pulls. I'm looking at a 70 or so hour work week so that's going to take time. I'll post more once I start drying crystals.

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    After seeing what the first pulls are doing I now only hope for a couple of grams.
     
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    treewood mediocre mycologist Moderator Mushroom Doctor Supporter

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    Next time after the naptha pull.....let it sit and evap down half and then freeze. Thats what I always did...If i didn't i would get little in the freeze precip. thats what I did, but I always used way more naptha for the pull too..


    PIC!!! of the fruits. :)
     
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    damn wish u was my neighbor i have some 100 ug deadpool lsd we would fucking leave earth ive been thinking about trying this