What will my pc hold?

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  1. Ellis

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    I just got my Presto 23 quart pc and am wondering how many quart grain jars and 5 lb bags you guys do at a time? I guess you can stack hwfp bags, but can you stack grain jars?

    I melted way too many bags in my little 6qt pc and don't want to do that any more.
     
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    Okay, looks like 7 quart jars, unless some lay a few on top of the others.
     
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    muskie Myco-Backpacker Mushroom Doctor Expert Identifier

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    You should be able to do 4 5 lb sawdust bags or 9 qt jars.
     
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    Do you lay jars on top of the 7 that are upright?
     
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    muskie Myco-Backpacker Mushroom Doctor Expert Identifier

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    Yes. I have in the past. I usually just do spawn in bags now but it works fine.
     
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    Cool, I think I can get 10 in if I do it that way.

    Bags would be great if I was doing that much of one mushroom.
     
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    If you are still having problems with bags melting, try lining the pc with silicone baking mats.
     
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    Great idea MorePies! I've used strips of tyvek house wrap for this in the past. Especially when I was using the 55 gallon barrel as a steamer, keeps the rust stains from the sides of the barrel off the bags too.

    The only time I melted bags in my 23 qt presto I was using the large burner on my stove. I think too much heat went around the bottom of the pan and up the sides.

    10 qt jars per load is feasible but try to position the sideways jars in such a way that the grain isn't resting against your filters while they cook. The juice can soak your filter and become a nutritious pathway to your precious cargo inside.
     
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    Thanks for the tips!
    My 6 quart pc would run out of water before they were finished.
     
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    Did ten QT jars WBS yesterday, and 6 bags of 4QTS (jar equivalent) WBS each today. Like whipped said, for the top three, make sure your patch is on top. Pushed 30 pounds WBS through in 2 cooks.

    For my bags (jars too) I use Mikes Methods of Madness. 2Qts grain to one QT H2O. No rinsing. No soaking. Pump and dump, just like my sex life.

    I do however, fill my bags, let em sit for a couple hours to soak up some water. Otherwise its a dirty bastard to roll them up. I impulse seal them (AFTER getting as much air out as possible or you cant fold them) Put 2IN wide masking tape over that, folded over the top of the bag. Then roll em up, put two rubber bands on them, and in a pillowcase they go.

    I put 2 or 3 can rings between them (between them horizontally) and alternate directions each layer.

    On the bottom of my cooker, I have as many rusty fucked up rings as it takes (7?) to act as a spacer. Then, a wok strainer (? its a stainless collapsing colander). And then the plate that comes with it. Keeping them bags as far from the liquid magna hell at the bottom is important.

    I put the water in bottom of PC first, cause you cant see it after you fill the girl up.

    Tie off your kingsize pillow case, then use 3 zip ties. One under the knot, one on top of the knot, and one to keep the knot tail from opening. You DO NOT want that tail to cover your vent.

    Also, get your pillowcase wet before you fill it, or before you cook if you forget. It will steal a bunch of water.

    I used to have problems melting bags or blowing them up. My problem was that I wasnt making enough at once. If its not full, they have too much room to expand and can blow up. The fullness keeps em tight and in their place.

    As always, YMMV.

    I only use jars for special projects these days.

    Oh, one more thing. It took me damn near 2 hours to get my 23QT Presto up to temp this morning. I do really try to bring it up slow, but damnit. That was boring as hell lol. PC'ing is my least fav part though. Thats why I like bags.
     
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    I do 6 runs of bags most days (3 runs, 2 23 qt. prestos) the trick to not melting your bags is; put 5 quarts of water in. I just wrap the top around the bag and tape it down. No tyvek, foil or any kind of spacers. The trick is, bring the water nearly up to the top of the first layer of bags (and put the first bags in so the flap is on top of the bag)
     
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    You could buy a stock pot that fits inside the presto and forget all the complex wrapping in pillowcases and such
     

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    Nice!
     
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  14. treewood

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    You can get 10
     
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    Your operating system has functions that you don't even know about. Why do programmers make a lot of money? The answer is simple. They have knowledge and skills that other people don't have. Technology is our future, so being able to handle computers at an advanced level is very valuable in today's world. Many users can't do basic operations without the help of IT professionals. I agree that some operations cannot be done on their own. For example, recovery of lost data from any medium requires special knowledge and skills. So, specialists from salvagedata.com deal with recovering lost files and data of any complexity. Their skills are very valuable these days.
     
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    how many bags does your IT team fit in a 21qt?
     
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