Pioppino re-work

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  1. Pistilwhipped

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    My pioppino culture sourced from Outgrow just wasn't that productive, I've seen pinsets from other strains that put mine to shame. So, I thought it would be good experience and possibly gratifying to work from a spore print and see what I could come up with. After many transfers, I selected the quickest of the mycelia and transfered it to grain. It vigorously tore through the spawn, went to bulk in XXL bags, quickly colonized those, and then was cased.

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    Spawn is whole oats.

    Sub is sterilized (3 hrs @15psi) HWFP, supplemented around 20% with oat bran, a handful of food grade powdered gypsum and a small bit of hydrated lime in each twenty pound (dry) batch.

    I spawn at a 1:5 (spawn/sub) ratio and allow to colonize in a flattened XXL .2 micron patch bag, allow to fully colonize, wait for slight browning, cut away the top of the bag and case with well hydrated coco/verm. Cased block goes in 66qt tub to await pinset.


    Which is where we are now. Those early pins there were there as tiny dots when I cased it several days back, they've pushed through the casing, I guess I'll leave them there.

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    Second tub, cased a couple days after the first.
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    A couple shoebox tubs done that same day.
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    When they are properly colonized I'll expose them to fruiting conditions as trays in my indoor fruiting box. It has filtered air @ 60-65 F and ultrasonic fog running @ 90% or better.

    I'll try to upkeep this thread properly. Lots more to come with these pioppino. There's several more prospective selections on grains colonizing now. Looking forward to your suggestions!
     
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    nomendubium scraping by, since '97 Expert Identifier

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    I'll hook you up with this swordbelt, since you are a supporter. My suggestion is to leave the bag closed until they are pinning like crazy pioppino.jpg
     
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    You know I'm not going to turn down that offer! PM sent!
     
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    Cool!
     
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    I have a bag of AA.FP and and it seems to be like browining!!! yes browning just like shitake! I am very curious about what will happen now.
     
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    They're finally starting to pin. I'll get some pics- maybe you can all help me decide what to do next. Can't figure if I should keep the tub closed until I get a better pinset or open it up for fruiting.
     
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    You mean your big bags are pinning? That's great after so muvh waiting!!!!
     
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    Those things look crazy cool! Whats the flavor like?
     
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    Yep. I stripped the top of those bags, put them in tubs and cased them with a 1/8th inch layer of peat/coir/verm. They've been getting a spray and a fanning once a day for the last five.

    Some people say when sauteed properly there's a hint of bacon, I've only ever eaten them once, so I don't have an established opinion on that.

    Tub #1: Going to wait a day or two longer on the pin-set before opening the tub and tossing it in my small indoor fruiting chamber.

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    Tub #2

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    Shoebox #1: These two shoeboxes surprised me. The casing was pretty much just dumped on them and is not uniform in any way. Didn't expect pins in these yet. They look like they could use a little head room. Maybe this box goes to the fruiting chamber sooner than later.

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    Shoebox #2: Lots of little pins showing up in there.

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    New batch from different isolates coming soon.
     
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    neatoooooo! mushroom gods gave us bacon flavored mushrooms!
     
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    there is a guy on FB that initiates pinning by cutting through the bag and into the block. ive tried it a few times and it was nice. i think these were under the list of strains he used this strategy for
     
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    Heard of it too but l never really tried it.
     
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    Great thread!!!
     
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    This is the results of the deep cut, one block clear across and the other is 2 stabs 20170408_120907.jpg
     

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    I must second the Swordbelt strain, although I think I've already mentioned that like 37 times on here.. lol
    Glad someone can get it to ya, I hope to revive mine as well. It's insanely productive.
    I've seen thick stem and thinner stem strains of this species, but got damn, your's looks like PE Pioppino, those are some fat chubs! :lol:
     
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    PEoppino, lol. Lack of FAE. I was trying to wait for them to pin and only opened the tub once or twice a day to mist. They really do look like little PE. I picked them and sold them today- dense little bastards. Nice solid stems.

    I'm looking forward to that Swordbelt. A google image search shows some unreal flushes. Certainly puts these blocks to shame.

    @Jackdaripper , so what you're doing is scoring them deep? I guess that's kind of like scoring with a fork. I know some strains like to be disturbed before casing.
     
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    Yep i cut em real good
     
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    Good and deep, prob around an inch. Harvests like a dream!
     
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    I'm so glad to finally see a photo of pioppinos growing in a tub....I have been growing the grain spawn and searching for how to actually cultivate them--there isn't much info except for growing in bags, and I just don't want to use them. Thank you!