Missing link / kimbo kush grow

Discussion in 'Cannabis Grow Logs' started by Raskal, Mar 24, 2017.

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Would you recommend pollinating across the two strains or keeping the two strains separate ?

  1. Do a cross

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  2. Keep it pure

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  1. Raskal

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    I am very excited for this new grow. This will be my second grow and I hope I don't mess it all up. I'll be using a soil mix of foxfarms ocean forest and promix bx. IM not growing organic yet mainly because I don't know how, so I'll be running advanced nutrients Flora series.
    My goal is to create some seeds using both the missing link and the kimbo kush as the father. Im hoping to use a STS solution here to create some fem. seeds and possibly make some regular seeds as well. Because of local growing laws.. I'll be limited to 10 plants , 5 of each strain. My goal is to end up with 4 females for flowering and pollinate the lower flowers for seeds.
     

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    I'd do both lol. Just grab a handful of the bulk food paper wire ties that you write on at the store and use them for branch tags. Cover the writing in scotch tape so it doesn't run if you spray anything. I've always wanted to try the Kimbo Kush too so this will be fun. I have it in a few forms but it's going to be a while before I get to them.

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    Ok. Decided to wait until I harvested 2 plants so I could run 12 instead of 10... I got 11 of my 12 seeds to sprout , the one that didn't was the kimbo. Also decided to run a 1/2 soil 1/2 Coco loco mix for this run. Hoping to add some of the pros of Coco to my soil grow. I also used water from a local spring called the healing spring for my first grow ... Im going to try to run this one with tap water so I don't have to worry about raising the PH as much. The spring water was 5.5 before nutes and 5.1 after, made for a need for a ton of protekt. If anyone has any input on any of this I would greatly appreciate it !!
     
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    The babies :)
     

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    Thanks for the follow.. def looking forward to the kimbo kush but especially some newer genetics. Kush is the norm around here and I think people need to experience some new strains . I like the idea of the tags, should work out perfect!
     
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    Update: plants are looking good so far. The missing link is far outpacing the KK so far. One KK is really lagging behind and is barely growing at all...It will probably be the first to get the axe.
     

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    First transplant complete.. I cut down one of the Kimbo because it appeared to be a mutant.. other than that all the plants look very healthy and growing strong.. I kept the humidity down a bit to slow growth so I could finish a flower on one plant. The missing link have the handles on the pots. This is my roommates grow room, fans sitting on empty beer boxes, to each their own . 20170414_171459.jpg 20170414_171443.jpg
     
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    Good luck Raskal, I'm gonna try to keep up with your log, I plan to have a grow of the same strain. Gonna wait for your log to do that, looks like a great start!
     
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    Slowly but surely ... seeing a ton of similarities in these two strains as of now.. the three that are far outpacing the others in the back left are all kimbo
     
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    Looking nice and green, they have a nice start buddy. I'm holding off on all my exotic genetics til I see your grow, so I hope it goes well, was really looking forward to the Spirit in The Sky hybrids and this to say the least, they have a ton of incredible looking strains. seeds store well in the new pucks and boxes they come in as well, are great for reference and solid storage. Those pucks they use now seem to be the best storage container I have used, haven't had one pop open and toss them all over yet tho, it seems likely if not careful, lol. Think I like them better than the plastic ones, particularly the fact that the pucks are opaque, keeps the seeds in the dark if left out by accident...

    Based on the pic I had a question about your supports, which seem to do the job keeping the pots out of standing water...
    Is the grate at the bottom used all the time? Do you just vacuum up the excess water? Doesn't that eventually wear up the tents bottom and leave you with just the fabric to fend off the runoff? Mine may not be as nice as yours, but some stand out and don't seem to be made for that, unless your vigilant about keeping it clean... Thought you might have another support system or if that's enough, that will work in a 3x3 tent I have, surely.

    Are the supports like oven grate strength or less that that? Currently Using a 4x4 OD botanicaire bin with just a 4x4 ID support, which I may remove, haven't had to drill a hole in it yet, just vacuum it out. The grooves fit quite a bit of run off, but my tent is 5x5, so I have a 1' section on one side and another at the front, which is fine, but the side gap is a pita outside the res.

    Was thinking about using that grate on the 1' section I have on the side, can reach with the vacuum, but just need some way to keep the pots off the ground/runoff (to get the extra vertical space, which is needed). My veg tent has the same res, but it's on 8" legs and takes up 6 or so inches that I could use those grates you have there, get 10" or so vertical space. Any info you have would be great.

    Most pots that i would put on the grates are 2-3 gallons max. ...FWIW
     
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    Love the exotic packaging as well... my first set of seeds came in a bubble package and I almost lost one when I opened it and they sprayed all over my computer desk. Mycotek uses a similar packaging which I like as well.
    As far as the drainage is concerned , this is only my second grow so honestly wasn't even thinking about the long haul. The grate was bought at Lowe's and is rubber coated shelving for kitchenettes. Seems very durable and sturdy and the edges are soft because of the rubber. I did have to trim them using bolt cutters so they would fit perfectly . I will have the plants on top of a generic plastic pot holder from the grow shop when I transplant to the 3 gallon pot, but I do leave the grates in for the duration. I do all my watering outside of the tent over a big tupperware bin. For now I just let them drip dry a little extra before I put them back in the tent , so I don't get any runoff inside the tent. I would like to try doing some SCROG in the near future so I am going to have to figure a system out where I can leave the plants in the tent for watering. Any ideas on that type of system would be greatly appreciated as well.
     
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    Yea, that's exactly what I do with the plants that I have stuffed in some of the smaller tents. Trick is finding the best way to drain the pots, I use a soil sifter to separate big rocks and other crap, but with the sides, it works great over a tub with a half dozen plants draining into the tub below. Using a spare, I can water all I need to avoid reaching in the tent to water, rather take a closer look and properly water it. Great idea tho, that really cuts down on the height restrictions if you have any.

    Another alternative could be a cheap plastic storage shelf set, using just the shelves upside down usually covers a good space, with a few of those, you can have a 3x3 or 4x4 area covered with a few shelves. I have a cheap set I got for 10 bucks been using for a while now with the same scenario, When I pot the plants I put a 1" layer of stone that helps if there is standing water, but vacuuming them out is very easy, I keep one end tipped 1/4" so all the water flows to one end and can be removed faster. You can also put 2x4 pieces in it to keep the pots above any water and never have to move them to water, just rotate and trim.

    Home Depot has a wet dry vac for 20 bucks you can put on top of a 5g bucket and clean anything, best 20 bucks I spent. Very handy tool that saves a ton of time and keeps things cleaner than you would normally be able to. Think they call it a homer bucket vac or something... 20 bucks.
     
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    Here are my 2 favorite so far.. seems growth has been pretty slow up until this past week. I'm sure it's something I did , lol. I have 1 missing link that is flying through water twice as fast as the others so I've just got it on its own watering schedule .
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    looking nice and vigorous. Leaves are nice and dark, awesome!
    Those are good pots will drain well a while, I've moved to all fabric as well, adding some air pots as I can afford them.
    There are some .3g air pots 6 for 20-30 bucks on amazon (free shipping, 2 daze), I got a few sets and the clones I put in them seem to always do better than the ones I put in 1g pots. Gotta be the way it drains, tends to need more water, but the roots at transplant are ready to explode wherever you put them. Food for thought, if your just starting, it may be a good idea to start with the small ones instead of upgrading. I think the price is fair considering the pots, they will last a lifetime, even under rough conditions.

    There is some solid research available via google that is prettly clear that plants tend to do better with small more frequent transplants as opposed to big steps. For instance, it would be a bad idea to start a seed in a 5 gallon bucket, rather a cup and make small upgrades to the size (.3g, 1g, 2g, 3g, 5g, etc...).
    However you can't shock the plant, the pots with velcro down the side or a way to take it apart (air pots) tend to have no shock, but trying to get a plant out of a 1g fabric pot without the velcro tend to cause shock more often, it rips the root tips pretty bad if they have been in there a while as opposed to opening the side and gently removing it when wet.
     
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    Im going to have to pick up some of thosr smaller ones.. l picked up 4 of the 3 gal ones and from what I read I shouldn't need to transplant to anything bigger for my current grow schedule. I will see look into the smaller ones though ....
    Interesting info on the transplants.. I guess my research led me in a different direction. I was hearing that doing a transplant to add just 1 gallon of soil can be counter productive if the plants do end up getting a little shocked.. I've been going from a solo cup to 1 gal and finishing in a 3 gal. I def see a need for something in between the cup and the 1 gallon since I feel the need to lightly water for weeks after the first transplant.
    On a separate note, I am going to be slimming down to 8 plants. Do you have any insight on which ones to pick for the chop besides slow growing or perhaps showing any signs of deficiencies ?
     
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    Yes, you can have problems with vigor if they get shocked during transplant. That's why you want the kind of pots that can be unzipped or unwrapped (air pots), I haven't had any plants shock during transplant in the year or so I have been doing this, but anything is possible.

    The 3 gallon pots you have them in are fine, larger pots in my setup usually never utilized and rich in nutes after flowering (based on some testing of 1, 2, 3 and 5g pots after harvest for just NPK levels), but if you can fill the pot with roots (watering daily), you want to move up a size, any impedance in the size of the root mass will have a direct effect on your yield, 3g is what I tend to use for flowering, 2g for veg, .3 and 1g when small), I just try to move them to a larger pot once they have reached the edge of the pot and had a chance to air prune the roots. Usually it's a tight mass that fits well in the next size up with room for and inch or two or soil on all sides until just b4 flowering I move them to their final 3 gallon pots. A dash of great white and the roots explode in the next pot. Since I started to do smaller transplants from seedling to flowering, the size of the final root mass has almost doubled from previously, which has increased my yield about 6-8 oz per 1k watts over the last 2-3 harvests, just being more conscious when and how many times I transplant.

    Note: not everyone's system will allow for additional transplants, as long as you are happy with the yield, that's all that matters. H&G makes a great product for explosive root growth, I just choose not to pay what they are asking for it, the transplant scenario seems to yeild the same or more as when I used the H&G product, without the cost other than the extra pots, which are a one time purchase and may ultimately reduce at least one of the transplants, I am just starting to see all the benefits of these air pots, great product.

    REF: https://www.420magazine.com/forums/...-superoots-air-pots-evolution-containers.html
     
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    If you take a look at the air pot images in the above link you will see how the roots come out of them and that just one size up is plenty of room for them to stretch during the last part of their veg cycle. Because the roots don't just circle, but turn back inwards, every direction, which makes for a solid root mass with a ton of healthy roots. I keep a series of veg areas with 1g pots in one, 2 in another and the 3 gallon or larger if used would usually be in the flower tent, but do stay in veg for a week after transplant or til I can see it taking on water and some growth at the tip, but they are sometimes flowered right after moving to their final pots depending on space.

    the pheno's you pick will be based on your preference, taste and yield. I keep the plants separate thru drying and once they were all done I basically decided which was the best 2 or 3, from there I plan to see how they clone over time and eventually it will get down to one, but there are so many variables that the plant could fall short you want to be sure to give the ones that shined the most another shot if you can't settle on one. I believe it's a good idea to keep a couple at least til you know how they clone in larger numbers, your favorite pheno may be a bitch to clone, so you would want to drop back to your second pick and hope that it clones better, but I don't see cloning as a problem with mycotek genetics, they all rooted quick and took to the soil running.

    I ran 11 seeds of Missing link, I was able to narrow that down to 3, of the half a pack of hell breath, I have 2 that I will test further, since the HB takes so long to flower I don't expect to do many full runs of it, just enough to keep medicine in stock. It's hard to even get the money back for the extra month of flowering, i'd rather just keep it for myself as it's the best medicine I have found to date. I'm looking forward to a run of the hell monkey next, I have a feeling that's gonna be diggity dank as well, lol
     
  20. Raskal

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    Plants are rolling ... just topped yesterday for the second time... Will be running a 12/5.5/1/5.5 light schedule end of this week to get an early sex on them. The big plant is my first attempt at making femenized seeds. I used the colloidal silver method with her significant other , and so far it has been very successful. She is a white widow max auto.

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