Stone growing question

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  1. n0j0y

    n0j0y Well-Known Member

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    Got my hands on some ATL#7 which I see people getting good success with stones. I have seen some grow logs but not much in terms of tek on growing them. I gather thats because its literally inoculate and wait then dig out the stones? Figure that might be a good thing for me to give a run at. Though I haven't done anything with grains. Is there anything that would stop me from trying that as a first attempt at grain usage?

    Im guessing best bet would be to go off agar. I will likely get a couple of plates going tonight either way to play with that and hopefully have something to throw in before I go away at the end of the year. Any thoughts or guidance? Not looking for a "how to grains" that is covered heavily, just more if I am missing anything obvious on stones.

    From what I gather, longer you let them go the bigger/potent they go but most people seem to eventually harvest then use for fruiting. Will figure that out when the time comes, but that would likely be after a big of grow time and ill likely have gotten my hand at bulk spawns by then on something else.

    Thanks all
     
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    eLShaMukO Moderator Moderator Mushroom Doctor

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    i dont think you are missing anything you can get both fruits and stones its a very fun species
    youll have to wait for your stones to grow and fruits usually will grow a soon as they fully colonize
    but like with any species searching for the best strain is they way to go
    good luck and looking forward to your log
     
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    same here, we are waiting for all the juicey pics of shrooms!;o
     
  4. n0j0y

    n0j0y Well-Known Member

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    So, would it be recommended to do a jar from agar let that colonize then maybe throw that into a bag of more grain and then just let it go? I have bags but honestly havent checked hou big they actually are. At that point just seal and walk away? Was reading grow log by Titus and sounded like it had other stuff in there, but had a few different grows going on so maybe I misunderstood.
     
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    yes it is possible to expand to spawn bags and work with that,in my climate bags tend to dry out a little faster for me that why i use jars but both way work with the correct moisture
     
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    I tried a few different typs of grains growing stones and found rye berries to be the best. You have to be on top of your stone jars and shake them before stones start to grow. I like making up a glc to innoculate stone jars cause i can shake the stone jar up after innoculation to evenly distribute the glc and the entire jar will colonize all at once.
     
  7. n0j0y

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    Thank you, rye berries are on the way. Glc imguessing it's another way to say grain jar for g2c? Or something different?
     
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    I make a stone glc by using a pint jar with a lid that has an injection port and innoculating about an inch high worth of rye berries. After the inch of grains is colonized i inject sterilized water into the jar and shake it vigorously. I then withdraw the mycelium water out into a sterile syringe and use that to innoculate more stone jars. Use upwards of 8cc a jar to innoculate more jars and give them a mild shake to distribute the glc. The entire jar will colonize evenly.
     
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  9. n0j0y

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    Ah so a liquid culture from grains gotcha. Does that have any major benefit over doing the same from agar? Just curious.
     
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    Faster colonization of the entire jar. You'll find stones start to grow before the entire jar is colonized. Once stones start to grow you can't shake the jar anymore and often enough but not always the jar wont completely colonize and its too late to shake. The glc can be distributed evenly over all the grains so the entire jar colonizes at once. Im sure g2g's are possible but ive always used glc's for stones.
     
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  11. n0j0y

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    Makes sense. Thank you for taking the time to explain. I haven't touched grains at all yet and stones are a bit foreign more so. Given I read they take time and are fairly hands off I was hoping to start some sooner than later once I have something to get them going with on agar.
     
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  12. n0j0y

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    I'll give it a go once I have some stuff to work with. Something new either way and new is fun and fun is...um...fun
     
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    Last question, you talking MS syringe in this case? Would agar transfer have any issue in this small amount?
     
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    You could do an agar trannsfer to grains. With stones im usually using a spore syringe. You might as well play around and start with both ,agar in one jar and spores in another. Pay attentin to stones forming and what they look like as they start to grow. Once you can spot the tiny fleck of a stone forming you may prefer not using a glc and only expand with g2g's.
     
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    Now you are talking my language. Why do one way when I can do 5 at once lol. Thank you for the input again
     
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    I received a notification from you posting in a thread I was watching that was dead and got me excited that was mean.

    Anyways what I did was make an lc from spore and then used that to inoculate jars of rye with a polyfil hole on top. that was about a month ago and I noticed stones forming. From my understanding the ideal time to harvest is around 2-3 months im not sure that letting them grow longer has any benefit. When you harvest do it in a sterile environment because once you separate stones from the rest of the grain you can make a substrate with the leftovers and then grow out the mushies for prints. Stone producing mushrooms don't yield a lot of fruit weight-wise.
     
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    im so jelaous of your FLOW HOOD dude. I would have expanded the shit out of stuff with that:)