Need recipe for substrate to use with WBS SPAWN!

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    I am fairly new to the mico world and have had great success so far. I am going from BRF to WBS tech and my jars are looking great and are ready to mix with a sub. I have everything needed to make the sub any way but the more I read the more confused I have become on which tech to use. I did a Martha built inside and I have Berma’s and Golden Teacher both . I need help on deciding what tech to use for my substrate!! PLEASE HELP !!!
     
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    What ratio is that? I used h poo last time and they did great but didn’t use coffee grounds.Its for cubs so I feel they need some poo.
     
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    Sorry it didn’t throw me to beginning of the thread I found the ratios.Will that tech work with cubs and can I add poo ? Does the water boiling pasteurize it? Also will it do a little better if I add a little gypsum to the mix?
     
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    That tek works fine for cubes.Add poo if you want but make sure to pasteurize your substrate if you do. Adding boiling wateris not pasteurization. If youve been having success with straight coir and want to add coffee just keep in mind that adding coffee will increase your chances for contamination. Awhile ago i was adding a spoonfull of spent coffee grinds into the bottom of a grain jar. Id let the jar mostly colonize and then when id shake the jar the coffee grinds/grains would evenly distribute around the jar and the coffee will colonize along with the grains. This will help to keep contamination down while adding coffee. Adding gypsum to the grain soak water works excellent.
     
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    I think I would rather use a tek without coffee grounds if the risk of contamination is that high.Last time I used a vermiculite, peat ,poo and gypsum and it worked but felt like a different trek would give me a bigger flushes. What’s ur take on coir, poo,gypsum ? I like thoes and can add vermiculite, peat or coffee. That’s what Im stuck on which way to go here. I will pasteurize either way. How good are the flushes just using the coir coffee tek? I just want great success! What’s your opinion on pasteurization in the oven ?Also can you pasteurize in the microwave if done in small zip lock bags with it unzipped a smidge? Thanks again
     
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    I like coir and vermiculite which by has been brought to Field Capacity. The gypsum gets put into the grain soak water. You dont need poo or coffee to get excellent results. Some folks do soak their grain in coffee water which is something you may want to try in the future. You could do a few different substrate recipes to get the feel for what works best for you and make a couple low risk tubs of just coir and vermiculite and expirement in other tubs/trays with poo and coffee. My new oven runs a bit too hot so it goes out of range for oven pasteurization. That is something you'll have to expirement with your own oven. Otherwise i love oven pasteurization. Flush size is determined by genetics assuming that you are doing everything perfectly.
     
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    I did soak my grain in coffee and added the gypsum to the soak and the grains really took off quick and are covered in spawn and nice and clean. I think your rite about trying out a few different teks . I figure either way as long as it’s done correctly will give nice results. Thanks for all your help MUSH ON !!
     
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