Dual extracted mushroom tincture. Should it be clear?

Discussion in 'EDIBLE & MEDICINAL MUSHROOMS' started by BTL99, Apr 16, 2019.

  1. BTL99

    BTL99 Active Member

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    I filtered the water extraction really well, but even still you will see it separate if you let it sit. This is normal right?
     
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    Sorry for responding to an old post but it was unanswered and deserved to be.

    If I am understanding this right what you describe is correct. When making mushroom extracts I filter them to 0.22 or 0.45 microns so both the aqueous and ethanolic extracts are clear but as soon as I combine them together the ethanol makes the polysaccharides crash out so a layer of sediment should be in the final product.
     
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    I gotta get me some of that!
     
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    The gear? Look on Ebay for Milipore or Kontes vacuum filtration apparatus. I like the versions where the ground glass seal is on the outside of the flask so I am not pouring my nice clean extract across the joint lubricant. I'm using the 47mm filter size. PES for ethanol and Cellulose acetate for aqueous. The cheaper Chinese versions are thinner glass so if you go that route you might want to get an extra adapter for when it breaks in the middle of use.
     
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    Lol the tinctures I have no idea what your talking about but now I want to find out!
     
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    I am generally open to selling tinctures but am not yet aware of the forum rules on this. I may need to be registered as a vendor or something here? PM me if not.

    On what I was talking about, useful search terms for EBay are:
    millipore vacuum filtration apparatus
    or
    kontes vacuum filtration apparatus
    or
    vacuum filtration apparatus

    Today the last one was giving the best results but this changes depending on the current listings.


    Ebay often has a nice selection. Right now not so much. Lots of cheap stuff and nicer ones as separate pieces. People sometimes sell the components separately. Maybe to make more money or maybe just due to breaking a part.
    If interested keep watching the listings as something nice and fairly priced will get posted sooner or later.

    A hand pump can work but requires a lot of effort. The vacuum pumps suitable for this are not expensive.

    This is the sort of device that I like:
    https://www.fishersci.com/shop/prod...428!3!386247001336!!!g!829066038951!XX1514700

    These regularly show up on Ebay.


    A more fragile Chinese version:
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/1000ml-Lab...rand=Unbranded&_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851


    There are two versions that I like to avoid:

    Using a rubber stopper
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/Laboratory...890240?hash=item1cd3a4ffc0:g:YNYAAOSwfCZdDIRn

    or with an inner ground joint on the flask
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/500ml-Litr...5&algv=default&_trksid=p2047675.c100009.m1982

    Buchner funnels are used for recovering solids. What I’m trying to describe is used for clarifying liquids.

    There is a small learning curve but these are not difficult to use.
    Some things are not intuitive like it mattering which side of the filter goes up as some materials want their shiny side up and others want the shiny side down but all of this is available product information or can be found in filter guides online. Obviously practice with just water or ethanol first prior to filtering something that matters to you. Getting the clamp not to leak is what causes most people problems but this just takes paying attention to the details when putting it together. The adaptor is also fragile and needs care in between use to avoid breakage.

    A two-stage wine filter can work too but those want at least several gallons of product to be filtered at one time in order to be cost effective.

    Best of successes!
     
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    Damn you know your shit! Would those also be good for homebrewing as I have a side hope project and have heard vacuum pumps work for bottling? I'll keep you in mind my man!
     
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    I've been doing this for a while. It is not difficult.
    For home brewing, choose a wine filter like a Buon vino (these are a self-contained vacuum filtration device made for clarifying wine). You can generally get up to around 5 gallons per set of filters.
    Membrane filters are going to go too slow to be very happy with when working with a few gallons or more unless you get a larger and more expensive device.
     
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